Comments on: Frameworks, my take on it

By: Idoru

Idoru — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:30:24 +0000

Hi Ryan,
I’m afraid I didn’t explain myself well enough, I agree with you and i do quite often choose to go the minimalist approach or without a framework at all.
The whole point of my rant was that while cairngorm is setting itself as industry standard it lacks a lot of the functionality of pureMVC and a lot of the appeal of lighter frameworks. (as a i state in the final paragraph)

By: ryan

ryan — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:25:56 +0000

also have you tried using cairngen to setup your cairngorm projects? it generates a lot of code for you to start off your project and lets you hit the ground running…

By: ryan

ryan — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:23:25 +0000

not once do any of the available as3 frameworks state any “rules” they are merely just guidelines and honestly if you are looking for an excuse to write code all over the application you really don’t need to blame a framework for trying to guide you in the right direction…

if your project is too small to justify using a framework… well don’t use a framework its that simple.

i really understand where you coming from though because it seems like all these people are shouting their mouths off about how wonderfull their lives have become after purmvc or cairngorm… yeah they learnt a thing or two but at what cost and can they still do the same thing in less amount of time and code…?

the app you mentioned sounded like it used a lot of dynamic data.. have you considered just using a proxy and the command pattern…? it’s really a minimal amount of code and all you need to make calls to the server easy from any where in the application…

don’t be afraid to just say no to a framework and you really should not be using frameworks if you just want to fit in with everybody else… be a man say no to frameworks if you want too, but at least take the time to learn them so that you can put people in their place when they try to tell otherwise…

By: nivey

nivey — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:46:04 +0000

Я круче нигде не видел.

By: Idoru

Idoru — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:54:44 +0000

@Nuno - Well the thing is that pureMVC just made me feel a lot more confortable from the very beginning and had more support, hence my choice.

@Anupam - I did but it felt to me more oriented for big enterprise level online applications.

@André - Thx

By: André Medeiros

André Medeiros — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:04:07 +0000

My thoughts exactly. Although I’ve been using haXe lately instead of ActionScript, pureMVC has been my framework of choice mostly because of the standards it makes you adhere.

Great article.

By: Nuno Morgadinho

Nuno Morgadinho — Wed, 21 May 2008 12:50:15 +0000

Interesting read. You should state the reasons (if any) that took you to choose pureMVC over as-hive.

By: Anupam

Anupam — Wed, 21 May 2008 07:12:57 +0000

Hi,

You can check Universal Minds extension to the Cairngrom Framework, Its interesting..